
Why are my PCTV cards failing?
Saturday, 28 August, 2004
Once upon a time... I purchased a Pinnacle PCTV Pro and installed it. It worked fine for a few weeks then it wouldn't open. Every time I click on the icon, a Microsoft error message comes up saying
Would you like to report this error to Microsoft?
I ended up sending it back to the distributor and they found that it was faulty and sent me a another new one. When I got the new one, I installed it and the same thing happened, it worked for a few days then the error message came up when trying to open it. I contacted the distributor again and he said it must be something to do with my PC. I told him this is not possible as the first card was in a different PC to the second one I received from them. He then said it must be something to do with your power in your house but I told him we have no other product in our house that has had problems through a power fault.
Anyhow they sent me a third card to try. Guess what? Same thing with error message and I installed it on another of our PC's. We put the latest 5.5 Pinnacle drivers on, still to no avail.
We are running XP Pro ATI 9800xt cards, 1G RAM, P4 3.2 GHz, large power boxes in our cases. Giga-byte 81pe1000 series motherboards, 250G SATA hard drives and Samsung 172X 17" LCD monitors.
Two errors that come up when trying to open it are:
Pctvassis.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.
We are sorry for the inconvenience.
PCTV Vision Main Program has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Is it possible that a power supply could cause this? This is one thing they keep saying to me but I know our power in our house is fine.
Power supply is: Omni 500W Switching power supply, meets ATX Ver 2.03 and 1.1.
Bios info:
CPU Host Clock Control ........... Disabled
x CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)......... 200
x agp/pci/src fixed............. 66/33/100
memory frequency for........... (auto)
memory frequency (Mhz)......... 400
agp/pci/src frequency (Mhz)........ 66/33/100
Dimm overvoltage control.......... (normal)
agp overvoltage control.............(normal)
cpu voltage control................ (normal)
normal cpu Vcore.................. 1.5500V.
I ran my anti-virus which found no virus, I even disabled it when installing software to see if that would work to no avail. I ran Ad-Aware which found nothing.
Here's where it gets worse, after trying everything I could ever think of, I thought the only way to solve this would be go and buy a completely different brand TV card. I purchased Leadtek, Winfast TV 2000 XP, yes you guessed it, same thing. I downloaded the latest drivers for it and still had an error message coming up when trying to open it. The FM radio on the winfast works and opens fine but not the TV.
Maybe it might have something to do with either our ATi Radeon 9800xt cards even though we have the latest drivers installed or could it have anything to do with these monitors which have not been on the market very long.Samsung 172x 17" LCD digital/ analogue.
I have all the latest windows updates. It must have something to do with video card which is why it won't open but I am not sure as I have become very frustrated over this issue and don't know what else it could be.
I know I can uninstall Windows and start from scratch again and slowly re-install my other programs to see if one of those are causing this problem but I am trying to avoid doing that.
Any ideas? I've run out of ideas other then thinking it must have something to do with either our monitors or our Radeon cards.
Thanks in advance.
Rod Williams, Narellan, NSW
 I suspect that you’ve already indicated where your problem lies:
I know I can uninstall windows and start from scratch again and slowly re-install my other programs to see if one of those are causing this problem but I am trying to avoid doing that.
When you keep getting persistent errors like this, perhaps a fresh start is simply something that CAN’T be avoided! Perhaps the condition of the mains power in your house isn’t up to scratch, and I’d have to agree that the Omni power supply unit isn’t the best available option, but it seems strange to me that the problems persist with a different brand of Tuner card, and that the Tuner card seems to be the only thing you’re having problems with!
Pinnacle PCTV cards have received poor reports from their owners quite regularly, and so has the support offered by Pinnacle. Problems encountered have frequently included:
- Persistent driver installation failure
- Serious conflicts with C-Media audio chips
- Advertised features which are not actually included
- Poor standard of included software, with frequent application lock-ups
- Poor standard of available support, including support website links which don’t work!
All in all, those are the very problems you’ve reported here, and the amount of similar reports I found is a bit alarming! Many, many people reported that they resolved their problems by ‘dumping’ the card in favour of a different one!
But I found no such reports in relation to the Leadtek card, in fact I found it hard to uncover anything but praise for it. But it doesn’t surprise me that you’re still having problems, after all those efforts to get a series of Pinnacle cards working. Your system must be a mess! I’d strongly advise you to format and start over, and give the Leadtek card a chance to install on a clean system.
My efforts to track down Pinnacle card issues weren’t a waste of time altogether, though, because I turned up this list of suggestions from a contributor to Pinnacle’s Support Forum. It seems to me that they’re sensible practices to follow no matter what Tuner card is used:
- Make sure you close down all background programs while installing or uninstalling the Tuner card, ESPECIALLY your AntiVirus program
- Make sure you’ve first updated your motherboard, display card and soundcard drivers before installing the Tuner card
- Make sure all Windows Updates are installed
- If there are any BIOS updates available for your motherboard which effect PCI performance, ensure that those are installed also
- Ensure that your hard drive is cleaned up and defragmented before starting to install
- If you have problems, try the card in a different PCI slot and NEVER use the slot beside the AGP slot
- If you have non-Microsoft, third party codecs or codec packs installed, then uninstall them before starting to install the Tuner card, in case they generate conflicts with those installed by the card.
(Hi Rod. I once helped a friend with a similar problem. He was going to return the card a second time when I suggested that he "pretend" to replace it. That it, take it out, stick it in a drawer for a day, then take it out and pretend it was a new one. Sure enough, it worked for a couple of days. Eventually we found that it failed when he ran a program. It was interfering with the installation in some way. He'd never associated the two facts. He used System Restore and it corrected things. Could that be your problem? -Paul Zucker)
Good luck with it all, Rod.
Cheers, Terry O'Shanassy
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DreamingwolfPosted: 02/08/2008 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I have 1 great solution that works for this problem, I had the same exact problem, but? I also had 3 OPERATING SYSTEMS installed on my hard drive. Windows ME, 2000, and XP. Well I first installed in XP because XP is made for media type of things, right???
Well I then installed it in Windows 2000 Pro, then it not only worked, but it kept up forever. Not only that, but on many other computers in Windows 2000 Pro.
It works just fine. JrikPosted: 25/07/2008 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Hi, I can't believe the hassle with TV cards, I think they are often let down by their software. If anyone can recommend a good one I'd be grateful.I had a Winfast XP Expert, it was a while ago so I can't specifically remember the problem but I got the best pic. tuned in to Russia, I'm in Cairns, I took it back. I now have a DiVCO DVB-T plus, which regularly crashes (but they're sorry for the inconvenience) or I have to spend ages getting the sound to work again. I tried the solution above but I only have C\ProgramFiles\CommonFiles\DSFilter\NeQTDec.ax , no NeQTA...or NeQTV... I have, OEM LG, Nero 7 Start Smart. I will keep watching here to see if anyone has some suggestions. hiPosted: 21/05/2007 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? go buy an ati tv tuner card. way better jaapPosted: 21/10/2006 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I had also the problem with PCTV PRO. Many times I reinstalled the program but in vain.
My help was the tip of THEO:
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTADec.ax"
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTVDec.ax"
..
After this my PCTV PRO worked allright.
Jaap G-fluxPosted: 19/09/2005 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I had the same problem, and after a whole day wasted trying to figure out what the problem was I noticed that the most recent software I installed was Power DVD XP 4.0 on my computer, which by the way also dosen't work, which screwed up my PCTV. After uninstalling I can use the tv tuner again.
Pinnacle sucks TheoPosted: 18/08/2005 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I looked through this post site and tried the Nero story well, Nero was causing the problem, or better said QT direct show filters, which are installed by Nero. But no need to uninstall nero, its enough to unregister those filters using following commands:
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTADec.ax"
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTVDec.ax"
..
It worked and I have an excellent picture when recording from TV (Arial) happyPosted: 30/07/2005 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? my avertv card every now and then won't load at startup. I go into device manager and re-enable the driver which solves my problem Dave FournierPosted: 23/05/2005 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Wow. Had this problem too and all of the uninstalling and reinstalling didn't do a thing! But unregistering the Nero files above solved the problem in 30 seconds! Thanks! Boblet247Posted: 29/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Hey, just wanted to say thanx to whoever submitted the "QT direct show" removal post, got my PCTV back, yay! Funny how Ahead and Apple both know about this problem but neither are doing anything to fix it. Frazer MircPosted: 25/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Hi,
I found your site very helpful, used the 2 unregister commands and both Nero and PCTV are working fine.
I did however fax pinnacle to let them know about the problem, hers the response:
Hello,
Thank you for your helpful email. I have passed it on to the Technical Support Manager, who will implement with necessary documentation.
Customer■s like you are very helpful in order for us to stay on top of situations like this.
Thanks again.
So it looks like Pinnacle will release a patch some time in the future. So for future uses of this form check out
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/support/display.asp?ProductID=306&SubDocTypesID=67
Before continuing
Thanks again for the unregister commands.
--Frazer Mirc
(Users helping users! -Paul Zucker)
SoniaPosted: 18/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I don't use/have the Nero, but my card always failing. I use XP (I don't like but...) I have serched a solution but at this moment= nothing!
updates, re-instaling all softwares... the cards works only once, in the second the Visio failing... I will crazy... ManojPosted: 15/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? I tried unregistering the two nero components and gues what PCTV works fine! And to think all along I was thinking it was because of SP2!
Even if users get the error, just select always on top in PCTV app. This will put the error message in the background. Just a small work around. OkioPosted: 09/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? If you don't want to uninstall Nero, you can unregister those filters which cause the problem:
Start->Run...
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTADec.ax"
then
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTVDec.ax"
TeddyPosted: 09/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Nero is causing the problem, or better said QT direct show filters, which are installed by Nero. But no need to uninstall nero, its enough to unregister those filters using following commands:
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTADec.ax"
regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeQTVDec.ax"
That works. Or you could simply rename/delete those two files, but its not necessary. Just unregister them as above described. I did, and now both nero and pctv/pro works fine...
BTW, that problem is known to ahead, but they still did not fix it even in the last version of nero. Some problem is in those filters... Chris OafPosted: 09/09/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Uninstalling Nero fixed it for me as well. I wonder what is wrong with Nero? Larry JentzPosted: 31/08/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Many thanks to Geert for the suggestion of removing Nero6. This fixed the error. I am now going to write to Ahead support to ask about a fix. After i read their support Faq's that is. GeertPosted: 31/08/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Nero Burning Rom 6 is causing the problem. Uninstall it. It worked for me... Larry JentzPosted: 30/08/2004 re: Why are my PCTV cards failing? Hey how about this. I am having a similar problem with a Winfast XP Expert edition card. I thought it was software interference but installed on a fresh 98se installed drive and although it worked the display keeps stoppig for a second or two. Big problem to try to record. The only thing i changed from when it was working fine to not working was had Foxtel Digital installed. I am wondering if Foxtel is spikeing the system with something to cause interference. I am going to try another computer with it before i return it for warranty to conform one way or other where the error is.
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