
Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk
Monday, 17 September, 2007
I wish to install a second hard disk (Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 200G) into my system. The existing: disk is an 80G.
Pleas describe the procedure to go through, I want to do the right things.
I use Windows XP Home.
(Originally posted February 2006)
Graeme Tyers, Mansfield, VIC
 Good question!
Here's a ‘check list’ for people confronted with this task for the first time:
- Determine what ‘type’ of drive it is. The physical procedures differ for IDE drives and for SATA drives.
- Install the drive physically in the system, ensuring that the correct procedures are followed for configuring and connecting it.
- Start the PC and, if the drive is not already partitioned formatted and available for use via ‘My computer’, then use the ‘Disk Management’ feature of Windows XP to ready it for use. This support section document from Seagate provides an excellent illustrated step-by-step guide to using the feature and performing the task.
Sounds rather straightforward, doesn’t it? Let’s have a look at the differences in fitting IDE drives and SATA drives. (We use the terms "Drive" and "Disk" interchangeably in this description.)
Fitting an IDE drive.
You need to locate a spare IDE connector to attach to the drive. Most PC;s have two IDE ‘channels’ available on the motherboard. Some have more, which can be used for stand-alone drives or for extra drives in RAID arrays. Each ‘channel’ will have a corresponding IDE socket on the mainboard for the data cable to be plugged in to, and each socket and data cable can handle two drives.
On the rear of the hard drive, near the power connector socket and data cable socket you’ll also find the ‘jumper block’, as illustrated in this image from Seagate.
If the data cable is connected to two drives then one must be set as ‘Master’ and the other set as ‘Slave’. We suggest you avoid using the ‘Cable Select’ option wherever possible, have the ‘Master’ drive connected to the end connector of the data cable and the ‘Slave’ drive attached to the middle connector.
Alter the drive jumper if necessary, fit it to a spare drive bay, connect up the data cable and power cable, and that’s it for hardware installation, really. (Make sure that you use an ’80-wire’ drive cable, rather than a ’40-wire’ one. Modern hard drives require their use!)
Check the BIOS POST screens at startup to verify that the drive is recognized by your system’s BIOS and, if it isn’t, check in BIOS Setup to make sure that the IDE channel you have the drive connected to isn’t set to ‘disabled’.
Fitting a SATA drive.
SATA drives don’t ‘daisy-chain’ on data cables, so there’s no jumper setting changes to worry about. Simply attach the data cable and power cable connector and away you go!
Again, if the SATA controller channel isn’t enabled in BIOS setup you’ll need to make the appropriate change there.
Some older motherboards with provision for SATA hard drives may not have a full ‘native SATA controller’ included, and may require the installation of a suitable device driver in Windows before the drive can be used. Motherboards with earlier VIA chipsets are rather ‘notorious’ for this, but you may find others also. If your system BIOS identifies the drive at startup, but Windows Disk Management is unable to find it, then this will be the reason. The necessary SATA controller driver will be available for download on the motherboard manufacturer website, if you don’t already have it on an installation CD.
There you go. The ‘Beginner’s guide to fitting a second hard drive’. Anyone having problems after following it can feel free to send a specific question to us. If you do, please be sure to include details of the make and model number of both the motherboard and the hard drive.
(Also see these other HelpStation questions for more information.)
Cheers, Terry O'Shanassy
 Reader solutions
PrakashPosted: 13/09/2009 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Hello
I Want to upgrade 80GB SATA HDD TO 320GB SATA ON INTEL 845 MOTHERBOARD WITH INTEL P4 2.4 500MHZ Will it work pls tell me i havnt buy HDD if it works then tell me pls i will buy it reply me fast plzzzz
prakash_tiwari2004@yahoo.co.in
(I see no reasoin why it shouldn't work. -PZ) arvinPosted: 09/02/2009 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk i have an existing SATA Hard drive and i want to add 80gb ide hard drive.can you tell me how to install the ide hard drive as slave??
(The best place for that information is in the motherboard handbook. If it isn't there ask the motherboard manufacturer. -PZ) Pankaj Posted: 07/02/2009 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Can I plug in 160 GB SATA HDD in Intel 82845G motherboard (P4 Series).
(If it has SATA ports then yes you can. -PZ) SANJAY KUMAR MISRAPosted: 15/09/2008 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I HAVE A SYSTEM P-III WITH MOTHER BOARD MERCURY 810 CHIPSET, I WANT TO USE SEGATE 80GB OR HIGHER HARD DISK WITH THIS SYSTEM, CAN I DO, PLEASE ADVISE MISRA_SANJAYKUMAR@YAHOO.CO.IN NareshPosted: 15/04/2008 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I am receiving error that"change your stand alone hard drive from slave to master"If add extra IDE hard drive as a slave drive. P.Venkateswara Rao.Posted: 10/04/2008 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Hi,
In my system I had 500GB harddisk. I want to add 80GB hard disk to the same system. I was attached 80 GB. I was able to see that 80GB in "Harddisk Drivers". But I was unable to locate my 80GB in "My Computer window". In the booting mode I had seen that 500 GB acts as a slave and 80 GB acts as master. Can please solve my problem. I'm having lots of data in 80GB. I don't want to format my 80GB.
thanks in advance.
(You need to find some help on the 'net regarding setting your drives as slave and master. I guess you want the 500G as master. The 500G hard disk manufacturer will also have some software to assist you. -PZ) JuckoPosted: 03/02/2008 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk There is so much misinformation in this thread its not funny.
Good luck!
(Hi Jucko. Please correct it. If you like you can write it up as a how-to and I'll publish it here under your name. Let me know. -PZ) ShitalPosted: 07/01/2008 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk hi,
I am having mercury 810e chipset based motherboard and SDRAM with 512 i want to upgrade my hardisk to higher say 160GB so will my mother support the hardisk size?
(Yes. -PZ) AmirPosted: 04/12/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Please email hard disk to Amirkhan_2021@yahoo.com John HagedoornPosted: 28/11/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I am trying to add a 120 Gb Seagate SATA harddisc to an excisting system which has a 80Gb seagate ATA disc installed. The motherboard has 2 SATA connections as well as the ATA connections. When I connect the SATA drive I can not get into BIOS and windows does not find the drive. However when I connect the drive after Windows XP is running I can use the drive and it works fine! Any suggestions?
(I'd check the BIOS settings to see if there's a relevant setting. And plugging that drive in when the system is running could be dangerous to the drive. -PZ) scottPosted: 22/11/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk my motherboard Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard i currently have a sata drive but was hoping to fit my old IDE drive, the only IDE connection i have is to my DVD, can i daisy chain the old IDE drive off of this?
(Yes, you should certainly be able to. -PZ) Jeswin P RPosted: 29/09/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I have a Asus Motherboard (2003 model). It has no SATA port. I have an IDE HDD. Can I connect the two to the IDE port by chaining.
(What do you want to do? If you want to add a second IDE hard disk to your PC, yes you can as long as there is only one hard disk on that cable already. IDE controllers can handle two devices on each cable. -PZ) bengweiPosted: 18/09/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Hi,my mobo asrock P4i65G's bios detect the SATA Hard Drive. But when i want to format it with Win XP. It prompt me "The Disc does not contain a Window XP compatible partition". I already try using the F6 stuft.
(Try running FDISK first. -PZ) ACEPosted: 17/09/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk with sata hdd's with some older SATA boards sata1's will only be recognized don't worry there is a jumper setting on the newer sata2 drives set it for sata1 compatability and you should be on a roll. Took me three days 2 different drives and a lot of searching to find this out (and more than a couple of grey hairs ) JackoPosted: 29/08/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Ever thought of adding a mobile external hard drive. I have recently added a Maxtor Basics - Personal Storage 3200 - USB connection - 320Gb for $169.00. Affordable simple and easy to use.
Purchased from the local Post office Branch. MehulPosted: 20/08/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk i wanted to add an extra hard disk. my system is P4 1.60Ghz, 512MB RAM, 845 MotherBoard. Which of the following would work: 160, 200 or 250G IDE hard disk?
(Or even larger. They'd all be fine. Most people would look for the "sweet spot". That is, the size of hard disk where you get the best value - the most gigabytes per dollar. -PZ) AndrewPosted: 15/03/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I added a SATA2 to my asrock m266a (with 80 GB IDE drive as main drive) using a card in a PCI slot.
I came here because my new drive was no showing in the system. All the advice here is good but did nothing to explain my problem. The problem was finally fixed in 'Disk Management' which is part of 'Computer Magagement'. There it was easy to mount, format and partition my drive. A novice not knowing this (as I was) could waste many hours trying to figure what connections or drivers are wrong or whatever else. David TalbotPosted: 10/03/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk For certain Intel chipset families (810, 815, 820, 840, 845, 850 & 860), running Windows XP, the following must exist for HDDs larger than 137GB to be recognised:
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1 or later (48-bit support added)
2. Intel Application Accelerator must be installed
3. Motherboard BIOS that supports 48-bit addressing
Addressing these issues:
1. SP1: most people would have this.
2. Intel Application Accelerator: check your motherboard CD-ROM or download from: http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/ and go to Software & Drivers
3. Check your motherboard BIOS version and work your way back through the list of updates to see if 48-bit addressing has been added.
I found out this information when I did some internet research regarding large HDDs and any problems installing etc. I have just bought a 250GB HDD and run Windows XP SP2, an Intel 845 chipset (Pentium IV 2.53gHz) with a Asus P4B533 motherboard.
I checked the BIOS and 48-bit support has been added and the Intel Application Accelerator is on my motherboard CD.
I will let you know how I go.
I hope this helps.
Rob SkinnPosted: 31/01/2007 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Similar to Tony's post at the top I too have been trying to fit a western digital 120 gb Hd as my second SATA HD. The bios recognises it but Windows XP does not - is this a 'native SATA control' problem where, as mentioned above, it will require a motherboard update? TonyPosted: 28/09/2006 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk I have a western digital 120 gb hard drive that for some reason windows does not detect, what seems to be the problem, i already connected it?
(Sorry Tony, not enough information. =Paul Zucker) Graham WrightPosted: 13/02/2006 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk before you can install win xp you have to load the sata hard drive drive by inserting the floppy disc with the driver and pressing f3 when prompted, instead of using a floppy with the driver can you use a flash disk instead Graham WrightPosted: 13/02/2006 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk can you use a older IDE hard drive if you already got a sata hard drive.
(Yes, you can mix and match as long as you have the controllers. If you have SATA on the motherboard you probably have room for a couple of extra IDE devices too. -Paul Zucker)
LeighPosted: 08/02/2006 re: Top Tip: Adding an extra hard disk Another, albeit, minor, point. You may also need a "double adaptor" on one of the power leads from your PSU. Some of the smaller PSU's may only have enough connectors for what's actually installed. Again, if this is the case, the PSU may, I repeat, may need an upgrade, but unlikely.
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