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Will these components work together?

Wednesday, 03 December, 2003

I have a love for computers, I have lots of different email addresses and I’m 14 years old. ...and I want to buy and build my own PC.

I've done my research on your fantastic website, along with other sites and I've selected these components.

  • CPU: 2.6 GHz Pentium 4C Class, 533 MHz FSB, no hyper-threading,
  • RAM: 2x 512M DDR 333,
  • GRAPHICS: GeCube Radeon 9600 Pro Game Buster,
  • OPTICAL DRIVES: Gigabyte GO-WO4OA DVD Burner, LG 52x24x52 CDRW, 16x DVD ROM (I spent my money on the last 2 drives and I want to keep them).
  • MOTHERBOARD: I'm not sure, as there are so many models out there! I want an ASUS or Gigabyte brand, with an Ethernet port, USB 2.0, AGP 8x slot, 5 PCI slots, 5.1 surround sound and Hyper-Threading. I’m unsure of what chipset this CPU needs, so could you please help me out there? I think the chipset is the Canterwood one.
  • HDD: 1 Western Digital 80G, IDE, 7,200 RPM,
  • TV TUNER" VideoMate Plus (the model that the December magazine rated as the Number One TV Tuner Card.)


Just a few questions before I go shopping-
  • Is the chipset compatible with the C class Pentium 4's?
  • Does the graphics card support ViVo?
  • Can I upgrade it 5 years later?
  • Can you recommend a good PC dealer in Dandenong?

Thanks.

Matthew Dimond, Dandenong, VIC


It’s good to hear you’re about to embark on your system building venture, and I hope you enjoy success with it. However, there're a few things I’d like to point out to you regarding your choice of components.

Processor
A Pentium ‘C’ class processor is a fine choice, but they run at 800 MHz FSB. I rather suspect you’ve actually been looking at prices for a Pentium4 2.66 GHz ‘B’ class processor, as those run at 533 MHz FSB. The ‘C’ class processors are the better option by far, and if you shop around you'll find a P4C 2.60 GHz processor for only about $10 more than the one you’ve listed.

RAM
Rather than purchase PC2700 333 MHz modules, you should purchase PC3200 400 MHz ones. You’d need that to allow the processor to run with full efficiency at 800 MHz FSB, and it would be a more ‘future-proof’ purchase in any case. Again, there’s only about $10 per module difference in price if you look around.

I really do stress those first couple of changes to your selected components, Matthew. The performance difference they would give you over the components you’ve chosen would be quite significant, and would be an inexpensive improvement. I may be wrong, but my ‘hunch’ is that you’ve made your choices after looking at the wrong advertisements.

Display card
The Game Buster card you’ve mentioned does indeed come with VIVO, and it’s quite a good choice.

Optical Drives
Oh dear!! I’m sorry, Matthew. Those drives you’ve mentioned mean a lot to you I can see, and I’m sure getting the funds together for them was an achievement, but they’re simply not needed. More than that, they’re going to become a
nuisance. You’ll have two IDE channels on your mainboard, and each can have two drives connected to it. If it’s possible to have your hard drive on a channel that is free of optical drives, it will perform at its best. You’ll also want that other spot on your hard drive’s IDE channel kept free, because if you’re going to be burning DVD's and doing other video-related stuff ( as your comments about a display card suggest) I’ve a strong hunch you’re going to want a second hard drive sometime fairly soon. Video, music and games fill up hard drives very quickly!

The DVD burner you’ve chosen also functions as a DVD-ROM, and as a CD burner also. It does the lot, it covers both main formats of DVD, and it’s an excellent choice. But you don’t need both the other drives along with it, and I’d strongly suggest you sell one of them on eBay or to a friend, and cover the small extra cost of CPU and RAM that I’ve mentioned above.

Motherboard
The motherboard I’d recommend, and which many PC gamers would also recommend, is the Abit IC. It’s cheap, it uses the latest chipset, and it’s a great performing and reliable motherboard. There’s no onboard LAN, but the board does have SATA connections if you want to add SATA hard drives later, and it allows for RAID0 on those drives. It’s a cheap and simple matter to use an add-in network card for Ethernet. The Abit IC7-G is a much more fully configured ‘big brother’, which would give you every feature you’d need (and more) if you have the extra dollars necessary to buy one.

If you really insist on a GigaByte motherboard, I’d suggest the GA-8I875 , and if you chose an Asus motherboard the P4C800-E deluxe Gold, although expensive, is the one I’d recommend from that range.

But I’ll say again -- go for the Abit IC-7 or IC7-G!


Your other questions
Definitely choose the Intel I-875P chipset to base your system on. It’s the one used in the motherboards I’ve recommended, and it’s the best chipset on offer currently for P4C class processors.

With regard to future upgrades, five years mightn't seem a long time when you're only 14 years old, but in terms of computing, it can be an eternity! I wouldn’t give any consideration at all to the potential upgradeability of your system five years down the track! You’ll be that much older, your financial situation could be quite different, and we’ll all most likely be using computers that are quite different to the ones we have today. 64 bit computing is looming large on the horizon, and it’s a safe bet that replacement will be your goal at that point in time, not upgrade.

HelpStation doesn’t really recommend individual PC dealers, and I’ve not used one from Dandenong to be able to comment on. The best I can do is to suggest you check out the dealer such as the one I use myself, a little further in toward the City at Clayton. Scorpion Technology is one of the most reputable hardware vendors to be found, and comes recommended by people from all over Australia. The prices and links I’ve provided are from there, and although I only shop on-line myself, I’m told their over the counter service is of a high standard as well. But by all means look for a store closer to home. Do any readers have recommendations?

Good luck with your project,

Terry O'Shanassy


Reader solutions



Robert K.Posted: 04/12/2003

re: Will these components work together?
Another good shop to buy is in Sydney: http://www.it-rite.com/


Prompt delivery & very good prices. I recommend it-rite to you. Good luck Rob
DamienPosted: 04/12/2003

re: Will these components work together?
I totally agree with going with the 800Mhz FSB and 3200 Ram. A few months ago I purchased the P4 2.4C with a Gigabyte 8IPE1000Pro MB and 512MB (3200) Ram and it flies. From power on to ready to go takes about 12 - 15 seconds (using XP Pro). The processing speed absolutely decimates other P4's (Up to 2.4) that arent running the higher speed FSB and RAM. Definately worth the extra dollars. Also when i bought my Ram I bought 2 sticks of 256 rather than 1 stick of 512 to take advantage of the Dual channel Ram.
Doug MillerPosted: 04/12/2003

re: Will these components work together?
Word of caution: Make sure you get a power supply that can deliver. You will be sucking a lot of juice from the wall and with out the power supply to back it up your gonna have problems. (Grab a multi-meter and work out how much youl need, handy tool if you love computers)
Larry JentzPosted: 03/12/2003

re: Will these components work together?
Take a look at the Gigabyte GA8PE100 Pro range and consider using a SATA hard drive. This would leave you with the 4 ide chanels free for the other drives. I am running the GA8PE100 pro with Intel 865 chipset and it is very smooth and stable. Also it offers Duel chanel support for even more speed.

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